WW3 starts. Do you enlist?
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choichoi
Woodpecker
rudebwoy said:
Just look at how China is making grabs for the Daoyou Islands and Russia is beefing up it's claims on Saikhalin, effectively bitching out Japan. Uncle Sam could quite use this as justification for stepping up measures to keep the two powers "in check"
rudebwoy said:
I wouldn't be so quick to run off to poosy paradise (couldnt resist, haha), man, in the event of a nuclear war - have you read "On the Beach" by Nevil Shute?
choichoi said:
I've been just where you are. Being a college E-4 can be a bit annoying as you see a lot of people who are younger and dumber with a lot of authority over you. It's worse in some jobs than others.
My advice is to stay humble at first. You'll likely stand out from all the dumbass 20-yos. The thing about the military is that your rank and the authority you command aren't always the same.
Also, constantly be looking for opportunities. Here's the thing about the military. No one will tell you anything. There's all sorts of things available to you that you'll never know about until you go find them. College classes, trainings, certifications, GMATs, you can take all of that on Uncle Sam's dime, but you have to go search out the information yourself.
IpsaScientiaPotestasEst
Robin
I think the main thing here is and I pose to ask as well, theres a difference between a possible Red Dawn type invasion and being sent off to some foreign ass land in the name of freedom.
If its Red Dawn, you better believe I'm joining the resistance or gonna be doing my best behind enemy lines (or whatever have you) to be freeing people or sabotaging the enemy.
Kinda surprised to see so many wouldn't, but then again-understand peoples reasons not to given how easy it is for countries to go to war over petty shit. Yadda yadda yadda.
If war did happen, and the draft was enabled-you better fucking believe it won't be that easy to get out of it and there will be stronger penalties than in the past.
If its Red Dawn, you better believe I'm joining the resistance or gonna be doing my best behind enemy lines (or whatever have you) to be freeing people or sabotaging the enemy.
Kinda surprised to see so many wouldn't, but then again-understand peoples reasons not to given how easy it is for countries to go to war over petty shit. Yadda yadda yadda.
If war did happen, and the draft was enabled-you better fucking believe it won't be that easy to get out of it and there will be stronger penalties than in the past.
Aliblahba said:
Speaking foreign languages is a great way to get into a lot of things in the military. I think you picked a good major, unless your school gives a degree in Killin' Commies.
I speak a few and got certified in them and they sent me to all kinds of places.
Regarding the initial topic of this thread, I was in the United States Navy 9/11/2001, which for quite a while we thought was the start of WW3. Granted that was horrible shit, I was in the right place at the right time and my performance during war time got me promoted like crazy.
Aloha!
I could see some major shit go down in the Middle East, even more so than what's going on currently.
I come from a family full of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam combat vets. Gramps was a pilot in Normandy, dad was infantry grunt in Vietnam.
Answer is and always will be "no". I got places I can camp out in the mountains. We know enough about American history and the oligarchy in the United States using the middle and lower class boys to fight their wars for resources and economic gain for the top .01%.
Although I might consider being a private chef for an air force General. I think they make a shit ton of money plus travel and benefits.
I come from a family full of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam combat vets. Gramps was a pilot in Normandy, dad was infantry grunt in Vietnam.
Answer is and always will be "no". I got places I can camp out in the mountains. We know enough about American history and the oligarchy in the United States using the middle and lower class boys to fight their wars for resources and economic gain for the top .01%.
Although I might consider being a private chef for an air force General. I think they make a shit ton of money plus travel and benefits.
Aliblahba said:thedude3737 said:
Whatever dude. I'll conscript your ass to be my personal chef, and if I catch you trying to bang my 11 female secretaries, it's to the gallows with you. A rogue General can't be bothered with a poonanie fox in the hen house.
As long as we're stationed in SE asia i'm cool with that :bukkake:
If tanks started rolling down American street, yeah, maybe. But I suspect I'll escape the country. The grand majority of harm done to US soldiers or things like 9/11 are direct results of our evil foreign policy.
We have army bases in 70% of the world's countries.
How would we react if China started to build one here? That's right, we'd start to fuck shit up. But for some reason, most Americans can't comprehend why so many Arabs and Muslims (not to mention many other populations) hate us. "It's because of our freedom!"
Yeah, right. Freedom. To paraphrase David Cross: "if they hated us for our freedom, then shouldn't Amsterdam have been nuked by now?"
And having 25% of the world's prison population while only being 5% of the world's population makes it clear that we're not nearly as free as our government likes to tell us we are.
We have army bases in 70% of the world's countries.
How would we react if China started to build one here? That's right, we'd start to fuck shit up. But for some reason, most Americans can't comprehend why so many Arabs and Muslims (not to mention many other populations) hate us. "It's because of our freedom!"
Yeah, right. Freedom. To paraphrase David Cross: "if they hated us for our freedom, then shouldn't Amsterdam have been nuked by now?"
And having 25% of the world's prison population while only being 5% of the world's population makes it clear that we're not nearly as free as our government likes to tell us we are.
Blackhawk
Kingfisher
If you want to really know where the next wars are going to be, buy the latest edition of A Quick & Dirty Guide to War: Briefings on Present & Potential Wars by James Dunnigan. He's proven pretty accurate in the past, and gives a whole lot of background as to why the conflicts are predicted to happen in each chapter. He also has a whole website of wonky military articles of lesser utility.
A major reason why countries go to war is overpopulation. And all the models are saying pretty much it's a given that the next World War will be between the two most fucking over populated countries in the world, India and China. It is highly, highly likely that the elites in both countries, when threatened by the underclass trying to rise up in either one of them, start a nuclear war between the two that wipes out mostly of their massive lower classes (while leaving the elites untouched). It'll be similar to the way Khomeini used the Iran-Iraq war to rid Iran of retarded and otherwise unwanted children by sending them in body waves of certain death to clear mine fields.
The next world war will involve over 50% of the world's population. But it will be largely between only two countries, and probably over so quickly every else will wonder what the hell happened. Japan may get caught in the crossfire, as possibly other neighbors. But Europe and the Americas won't be able too do much except watch from a distance, shoot down any stray missiles launched their way, and it'll be over before anyone outside the region even realizes it started.
There is the slight possibility it will turn out to be a conventional war, but not in the western sense. Both sides can easily mobilize armies so large that there isn't enough refinery capacity in the entire world to fuel trucks to drive that many people. It would start with modern mechanized warfare, but within a few weeks both sides will be reduced to Napoleonic-level foot marching and huge supply problems even getting ammo and food moved to the battle front. Some believe it could even degrade back to swords and pikes as the only weapons still able to function.
In the more likely nuclear scenario, the real trouble will be dealing with the radioactive fallout that will be in the atmosphere for an unknown amount of time afterwards --no one has set that many nukes off at once in a limited area before. Some models also include the possibility that both sides use "cleaner" neutron bombs, and other WMD instead of old fashioned atomic bombs. It's still not pretty. Most likely both sides use their remaining air-forces (and fuel) not to engage either other, but to spray chemical aerosol poisons across large swaths of the each other, crop dusting each others (non-elite) civilians into further oblivion.
So while it's unlikely that anyone on this forum will be serving in the next world war (or there will even be time to draft, train and fly them over before it's finished), we'll all be breathing the fallout and poisons left behind for years, possibly decades, afterwards.
A major reason why countries go to war is overpopulation. And all the models are saying pretty much it's a given that the next World War will be between the two most fucking over populated countries in the world, India and China. It is highly, highly likely that the elites in both countries, when threatened by the underclass trying to rise up in either one of them, start a nuclear war between the two that wipes out mostly of their massive lower classes (while leaving the elites untouched). It'll be similar to the way Khomeini used the Iran-Iraq war to rid Iran of retarded and otherwise unwanted children by sending them in body waves of certain death to clear mine fields.
The next world war will involve over 50% of the world's population. But it will be largely between only two countries, and probably over so quickly every else will wonder what the hell happened. Japan may get caught in the crossfire, as possibly other neighbors. But Europe and the Americas won't be able too do much except watch from a distance, shoot down any stray missiles launched their way, and it'll be over before anyone outside the region even realizes it started.
There is the slight possibility it will turn out to be a conventional war, but not in the western sense. Both sides can easily mobilize armies so large that there isn't enough refinery capacity in the entire world to fuel trucks to drive that many people. It would start with modern mechanized warfare, but within a few weeks both sides will be reduced to Napoleonic-level foot marching and huge supply problems even getting ammo and food moved to the battle front. Some believe it could even degrade back to swords and pikes as the only weapons still able to function.
In the more likely nuclear scenario, the real trouble will be dealing with the radioactive fallout that will be in the atmosphere for an unknown amount of time afterwards --no one has set that many nukes off at once in a limited area before. Some models also include the possibility that both sides use "cleaner" neutron bombs, and other WMD instead of old fashioned atomic bombs. It's still not pretty. Most likely both sides use their remaining air-forces (and fuel) not to engage either other, but to spray chemical aerosol poisons across large swaths of the each other, crop dusting each others (non-elite) civilians into further oblivion.
So while it's unlikely that anyone on this forum will be serving in the next world war (or there will even be time to draft, train and fly them over before it's finished), we'll all be breathing the fallout and poisons left behind for years, possibly decades, afterwards.
Anon-A-Moose
Kingfisher
Blackhawk, it's well known the US will be involved in ANY potential conflict--because selling guns is what we do best.
British Dude
Pigeon
no time for war, when I've got game to learn! hehehe
On a serious note though, I don't think WW3 would go nuclear unless the Iranians & North Koreans start some shit, I would never sign up for a ground offensive.
On a serious note though, I don't think WW3 would go nuclear unless the Iranians & North Koreans start some shit, I would never sign up for a ground offensive.
choichoi
Woodpecker
Enjoying holiday leave from basic. Basically just indulging in all the civilian freedoms I took for granted prior shipping out. I feel alot more confident in myself and I have picked up a noticeable amount of muscle from all the PT and smoking sessions since I was already a skinny mofo. I also feel more alpha than I was before I left but I haven't gamed many chicks since I've been back because of laziness.
Making some decent enlisted coin because of my BA degree (not so Worthless after all heh). Anyways I gotta go back in a couple more days to finish up 6 more wks of BCT and then onto AIT.
I'm surprised by how many guys there are who are a few years younger than me but are already getting married and having or have kids - to each his own. Glad it aint me. Feel like I've been dodging a bullet all these years to be honest and I plan on continuing to do so up into my 30s. Imagine some fucking sow back home collecting my/tax payer-funded salary and benefits to sit on her ass all day prob banging other dudes while I'm possibly hundreds or thousands of miles away. Say she decides to cut the knot and take the kids and lock my ass in to funding her single mother lifestyle all on the govt dime. Fuck dat shit
Well I'll be back on here in a month or so. Later
Making some decent enlisted coin because of my BA degree (not so Worthless after all heh). Anyways I gotta go back in a couple more days to finish up 6 more wks of BCT and then onto AIT.
I'm surprised by how many guys there are who are a few years younger than me but are already getting married and having or have kids - to each his own. Glad it aint me. Feel like I've been dodging a bullet all these years to be honest and I plan on continuing to do so up into my 30s. Imagine some fucking sow back home collecting my/tax payer-funded salary and benefits to sit on her ass all day prob banging other dudes while I'm possibly hundreds or thousands of miles away. Say she decides to cut the knot and take the kids and lock my ass in to funding her single mother lifestyle all on the govt dime. Fuck dat shit
Well I'll be back on here in a month or so. Later
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