Yoga? Bad idea? Good idea?

Us westerners tend to view yoga as a physical exercise since it came around in the 80's. While it is physical, Indian culture sees yoga as a mental and spiritual endeavour as well. I believe it is also considered a religion to some Hindus having its own set of philosophies and such . I can not elaborate on this but I'm sure someone here can.

As far as yoga being 'girly', it very well may be... however, this is only perspective. Should you go to India, I'd imagine you'd find classes full of men and women. As a spiritual lifestyle for those people, there is no stigma when it comes to being a man or woman wishing to participate.

I've been to a few classes at different gyms in my area with everything from fit girls to fat girls but never another male. I've been approached by men, seeing me leave a yoga class, and questioned about whether or not its worth a try. I'll tell you what I tell them.... yes its worth a try even if it's just to see if there's anything you can get out of it.

For instance, I practice martial arts and my style has limited weight training capabilities. Yoga adds another dimension to my workout outside of the bodyweight exercises and calisthenics I do. Strengthening my core, and increasing flexibility. Two must haves for martial artists. I do deep stretching and breathing poses in the evening, and more strength based poses during my workouts.

For my weightlifting buddies, I'd say that you'd most benefit from deep stretching poses... I think it's called kundalini. Where you increase oxygen and blood flow to your body with breathing/stretching. Since you're already lifting, you may not get as much out of the more rigorous programs but only you can be the judge of that.

For the guys,and girls, who don't do shit but want to be fit... Yoga is the way to go. You're not gonna get ripped doing it but you can gain a little muscle with daily workouts and increased strength as well.

There are different types of yoga for different applications and the only thing girly about it is the fact that here in the west, more women than men choose to participate or practice it.
I'm cool with that. I'd rather have a girl with a yoga body than a weightlifter body any day.

Simply put... Just because more women do it, does not mean there is nothing we men can get it out of it. In fact, it may have been men who created or discovered it in the first place. (very likely in my opinion)
 

JWLZG

 
Banned
I think it's probably yoga's being a product of Indian culture, not in spite of, that counts against it. Indians and Indian culture are very much scorned in RVF and manosphere circles, as being the complete antithesis of not just neo-masculinity in particular, but Western moral and cultural superiority in general.

When you think about it, so too far quite a fair few offshoots of India at odds with the red pill and manhood -- pacifism, compassion, vegetarianism, Buddhism. I can see how an RVFer would thumb his nose at the idea of doing your fellow man no harm, as an inherently feminine trait, the raison d'être of mankind being to forcefully seek out and conquering the ground of other men whilst defending your patch in turn. Similarly, a steak and two veg is praised as the most masculine meal one can consume, a testament to the strength and forcefulness of man and his mastery of lesser fauna.

I imagine Gandhi couldn't count on too many fans among the 'sphere.

As for how this relates to yoga -- wouldn't it be fair to say that its soft and nimble nature would speak to what its mental and spiritual side would be? The idea of harmonising your mind, soul, body, with your surroundings point to an effete belief system, easily domitable belief system.
In contrast to weightlifting, which can be seen as a more masculine form of physical conditioning, as it involves the honing of ones anatomical faculties and mastery of strength, for the purposes of control over his environment. This also sharpens his martial state and stature.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, or have swallowed too much of the Manosphere Kool-aid, but I can't help but see a justification for the feminine stigma it enjoys.

I can definitely see the benefits that you've explained, and reckon that it augment and broaden my workout routine and capabilties....but maybe I see doing it as a slight against my manhood? :-/
 

aeroektar

Pelican
Yoga class/group yoga? Nope, not my things, seems try hard and effeminate.

Yoga in my apartment? Yes, everyday. You can find videos all over youtube that can help you with any stiffness/soreness. It's done great things for my back. A couple years ago I fucked up my lower back at work and collapsed walking to the bathroom the next morning, it took 3 days before I could stand upright. Yoga fixed that shit over the coarse of a month or two.
 
Nothing try hard or effeminate about yoga. You just need to grow some balls and adopt a true ZFG attitude. The girls in your class will look on in awe (and lust) at the power and finesse that only a man can achieve. Find a studio that offers more challenging and athletic classes, get good at it and you will blow the rest of the class away.
 

Giovonny

Crow
Gold Member
Yoga was invented by MEN; for MEN.

Ancient hunters studied the physical patterns of wild animals..

Animals are constantly stretching...

Why?

They must be ready to hunt at all times..

Our physical bodies are incredible living machines that are designed for dynamic, powerful, movement.

In order to get money and girls. It's best to be fit, healthy, vibrant, rested, re-charged, flexible, strong, clear minded, and full of vitality.

Yoga is designed for us, the hunters.

That's the "red pill" of Yoga.
 

OrthodoxExpatCol

Kingfisher
There's nothing effeminate about Yoga, I agree...I do Yoga at home whenever I get the chance, but I'll pass on attending a Yoga class. I don't see the need to go to a class.

Just watch a damn youtube video. Picking up a girl at the Yoga studio seems so cliche. You think they're full of hot women until you attend and it's nothing but whales and acne-prone, stinky hipsters...Then again, I am in Toronto.
 

Stallion

Robin
If you do it for girls, don't, there are better ways and doing anything so you have excuses to meet girls lowers your SVM.

To be in shape it's not the worst thing to do.

However any group activity, specially when organized by girls, is not the most optimum use of your time. You get results yes, but why waste time with suboptimal programming, hippie bullshit about chakkras and ceaseless girly banter.

I stretch on my own and spend half the time than if I attended a yoga class, for better results. 45 minutues 3 times per week.

I used to do it after weightlifting workouts but if you are able to do that, you are not stretching hardcore enough. Now I do mobility and active stretches between weightlifting sets, but leave hardcore stretching for before bed.


Take stretching as a separate and serious workout, sometimes my stretching workout is harder than deadlifting or squatting sessions. But it feels so good afterwards.

I used the stretch series from gimnastic bodies as a starting point, 1st wokout is for middle splits, second for thoracic bridge, and last for side split. I see improvements from month to month, it's incredible what 3 sessions per week do over time.
 

Yeti

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I generally make it to yoga class three times per week or so. It's just one part of my overall health and fitness routine - including waking up at 5am, bright light therapy, whole and healthy foods, low stress (if I can manage it), and lots of sleep.

I look great and I'm in great shape and I attribute this to two things mostly: 1) yoga, and 2) a clean diet. Those are the 80/20 lifestyle changes that I made that have made me feel great and have girls fawning. So, yoga works for me. You can call it feminine if you'd like. Ideally yoga should be done in concert with something else, like a martial art. That's why I'm gradually getting into jiu jitsu, with yoga as a nice complement.

The thing about yoga is that it can really help you to understand what's going on with your body generally. So, if you keep a regular practice, you'll notice things. You'll notice when you need to chill out for a bit and not stress out so much. You'll look at food differently - you now realize that that piece of cake is going to give you a sugar crash and make you feel tired for the next hour. You'll notice when you've been sitting at a desk or on the couch for too long and need to get up and walk around for a bit. You'll notice when you need to drink more water.

Call it what you'd like but yoga can help a G become more aware of what serves him, and what doesn't. To me, it's clearly an 80/20 activity, along with getting a regular eight hours of sleep, and eating clean, healthy food.
 

travolta

 
Banned
WeekendCasanova said:
There's nothing effeminate about Yoga, I agree...I do Yoga at home whenever I get the chance, but I'll pass on attending a Yoga class. I don't see the need to go to a class.

Just watch a damn youtube video. Picking up a girl at the Yoga studio seems so cliche. You think they're full of hot women until you attend and it's nothing but whales and acne-prone, stinky hipsters...Then again, I am in Toronto.

You attend a class so the teacher can correct your form. As with any physical activity, if you do it wrong you can hurt yourself.. the same applies for yoga. If your alignment is incorrect then you'll be practicing on a bad foundation. You might get overconfident, thing you're more flexible than you are, overextend a stretch with bad form, and next thing you know you're injured. Also the atmosphere in a class is way better than at home, but I suppose that's a matter of preference.

There definitely are hot girls in yoga. Toronto sounds terrible.
 

Filbert

Robin
Yoga is a good idea, but I would study not physical yoga, like hatha, but something like raja yoga or jnana, which is another level.
Hatha is just a preparatory level.
That is, you can skip the physical level, and start with meditation.
 

BelyyTigr

 
Banned
I don't see how yoga in its own right could ever be a bad thing.
OK being in a class full of smelly hippies who fart chick peas might be... but I digress.

Plus with yoga, you might want to learn TANTRIC yoga.
And then become a blackbelt, grandmaster Bruce Lee of fucking..
Which is ANYTHING but bad. Haha

An alternative to yoga might be the internal/Taoist Chinese arts - the most notable all round one being Tai Chi.

Now Western tai chi is often infested with camp lentil munchers.
But done PROPERLY the principles of tai chi can be integrated with various martial arts (or its own martial art) and become a VERY alpha thing. I was wondering about putting up a post explaining tai chi myself, if people are interested.
 

AboveAverageJoe

 
Banned
I think just pointing people to Mantak Chia boooks would be a start, but a Tai Chi thread why not?
As far as yoga being bad in anyway? Yes, if you go overboard, have to tell everyone that you are coming/going to yoga, telling people they should try it, carry your water bottle everywhere like its a canteen and you are at war against dehydration, consistently using the words "karma, chakras or dharma and namaste" where they don't apply and are awkward, buying yoga clothes, etc. and the list goes on pretty soon you are smelling like nag champa and eating soy-meat curries.
Yoga is great but it is very Yin and feminine in nature. It must be balanced out with other manly activites like fighting, and well fighting. MMA, boxing, wrestling, martial arts, Thai Boxing, BJJ. As long as it is some form of fighting. Otherwise yoga could neuter you. If you do other manly shit when not doing yoga you will be allright. If doing yoga is the manliest thing you do, you might be headed for a testosterone crash.
 

HOD

Woodpecker
Gold Member
I use yoga to fix my lower back pain, it is the only thing that ever corrected my lower back pain, the injury was sustained from lifting heavy weights and from doing too much BJJ, i.e. using the guard too much.

Also yoga is known to keep you looking young.
 

BelyyTigr

 
Banned
I think like Tai Chi, the Yoga we often see in the West is a watered down, feminised version.

Certain real yoga exercises require extremely good muscle levels - boydweight, tree branch pullups etc But they are rarely taught to the hippy chick type classes. Plus in old India, only the warrior caste would eat meat. There is no "yoga law" that insists on lentil eating and all that.
 

CaptainChardonnay

Ostrich
Gold Member
I've been doing an hour after lifting and feel great. I've only done it 4 times now but noticed that I breath more deeply and have been getting stronger boners so I guess better circulation. Hot yoga is actually pretty hard.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Several above have mentioned how good it is for strength and flexibility, which are true. I would add balance as a very important benefit. Strength, balance, and flexibility are a powerful combination.
 

Cr33pin

Peacock
Other Christian
Gold Member
After taking two months off of the gym because I tweaked my shoulder last time i lifted... and living a pretty inactive lifestyle for my two months off. I joined a new gym and have had four Hatha Yoga classes in the last two weeks, each class is a hour an a half. Now I'm officially sold on Yoga, its something I have been wanting to get into for the past 5 years or so but never pulled the trigger aside from doing yoga as part of p90x years ago and also doing some YouTube yoga with my girlfriend for a month (also years ago)

I'm pretty strong guy, been lifting a lot the over the past few years and have always been pretty athletic throughout my life. But in Yoga class I'm shaking and shivering trying to hold some of these poses while the (extremely sexy) Ukrainian girl beside me is holding the same pose with ease. It's quite a humbling experience. Flexibility has never been one of my strong suits. I'm actually pretty excited about getting into yoga and seeing how I can change my flexibility. It's a fresh new challenge that really holds my interest.

Another thing about yoga is after I have finish the class and I am walking around living life... my body just feels like its in tune, like its working and moving the way it should. It's kind of hard for me to put into words but I really believe yoga is super beneficial to the body and the mind. So you can call me a feminine, tree hugging, gluten free taco eating, homo if you wish..an I shall simply respond with "Namaste"

ps. yoga is sexy as fuck for girls.... these fine young Ukrainian gals in their yoga pants and sports bras doing all these flexible poses... it truly tingles my spidey senses.

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Scrapper

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Giovonny said:
Yoga was invented by MEN; for MEN.

Ancient hunters studied the physical patterns of wild animals..

Animals are constantly stretching...

Why?

They must be ready to hunt at all times..

Our physical bodies are incredible living machines that are designed for dynamic, powerful, movement.

In order to get money and girls. It's best to be fit, healthy, vibrant, rested, re-charged, flexible, strong, clear minded, and full of vitality.

Yoga is designed for us, the hunters.

That's the "red pill" of Yoga.

Agree 100% with this post.

As a younger man I use to think yoga was "feminine" and I will admit I was completely wrong.
Now in my 30's daily yoga, even for just 5 minutes a days, prevents my Sciatic Nerve pain and my Piriformis Muscle from tightening up.

Every single knowledgeable person in the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Dojo I go to regularly practice, warms up with and recommends yoga.
 

whiteknightrises

Kingfisher
I do yoga from time to time at home

I do it for the stretching (I believe the slow, stretching type is Hatha yoga)

www.doyogawithme.com (no affiliate)

I follow videos:
https://www.doyogawithme.com/content/office-yoga-spine-and-shoulders
https://www.doyogawithme.com/content/5-minute-stretching-routine-wrists
https://www.doyogawithme.com/content/gentle-yoga-neck
www.doyogawithme.com/content/yoga-hips-hamstrings-and-back
https://www.doyogawithme.com/content/yoga-therapy-neck-and-feet (start this at 4:45)

I do that routine. Amazing if you have ~1 hour and 15 min. You will feel like heaven after

^helped me with flexibility a bit. Especially the 4th. I can actually kinda touch my toes now when I do a hamstring stretch sitting down
 
I've done yoga on and off for a year. Great health benefits. Most of the girls are fit, and the workout isn't bad. Certainly no substitute for doing some weight training, but I use yoga as an "off day" to relax from hitting the weights hard. I find it works best to take an evening class if possible, that way you have all your stresses removed right before you hit the sack. Yoga is a fantastic sleep aid!
 
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