Zionist Conservatism vs Groypers thread

RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Mainstream cuckservatism is just about keeping the boss Jew underwriting going. TPUSA and many others like it won't talk about Isreal question. A good book to read is called The Israel Lobby by Stephen Walt. It takes a hard look at how the Israeli lobby influences American politics.
 

Yatagan

Pelican
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RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

John Michael Kane said:
Mainstream cuckservatism is just about keeping the boss Jew underwriting going. TPUSA and many others like it won't talk about Isreal question. A good book to read is called The Israel Lobby by Stephen Walt. It takes a hard look at how the Israeli lobby influences American politics.
That and to act as the left's praetorian guard against those further right. Remember, "conservatives" couldn't even conserve women's bathrooms.
 
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Just like upper middle class leftists, he's advocating for things that doesn't affect him directly, just the lesser minions. Elitrsists on the left and the right have a similar contempt for the plight of the average man.
 

Buck Wild

Kingfisher
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Why is it wrong to be in favor of criminal justice reform? Look at the actual bills under consideration---none of them would release people guilty of violent crimes. Can someone here please explain the opposition to these bills?

Fully agree on aid to Israel, however.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
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RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Buck Wild said:
Why is it wrong to be in favor of criminal justice reform? Look at the actual bills under consideration---none of them would release people guilty of violent crimes.
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The ugly reality these days is that cops lock up repeat offenders on parole violations for non-violent drug offences and other non-violent crimes because they are quite aware that the people they're tossing back in jail are anything but non-violent.

There's not a lot of people in jail for repeatedly getting busted with a baggie of weed but getting busted with a baggie of weed is a great excuse to toss a gang-banger back behind bars where he should have stayed rather than being paroled by liberal assholes who will never have to live near the bastard.

So you have hundreds or maybe thousands of murders, rapists, muggers and other scumbags locked up for "non-violent crimes" simply because the constabulary don't want to wait for the assholes to kill someone else (or many people before they're finally caught) before they can put them away again.
 

Rotten

Robin
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

The question that needs to be asked of him:

"Charlie Kirk, you think that America doesn't need common shared heritage, familial bonds, or common religion to prosper as a State. America, you say, is an idea.

So my question to you is two part 'Who gets to communicate this idea to the masses of the next generation?' As a practical matter, the answer looks like the mainstream media, the teachers unions, and whatever foreign ideas foreigners keep bringing with them. 'Why should we trust our demonstrable repeat enemies to define who we are and what we stand for?"
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Just because he cucks for the gays doesn't make him gay. Its just part of the Zionist agenda to break down American families and values. But then again... that's still pretty gay.
 

Gimlet

Woodpecker
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Who decided that a person/corporation/nation's treatment of homosexuals and trannies is the ultimate litmus test of their worthiness? I am quite tired of this being an argument for or against anything. A day doesn't go by in shuck I must think of them. If fact my Screensaver had informed me that this is lgbtqz history month. What?
 

Easy_C

Crow
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

RIslander said:
Just because he cucks for the gays doesn't make him gay. Its just part of the Zionist agenda to break down American families and values. But then again... that's still pretty gay.
Some people like to take it up the chute literally, others metaphorically.
 

Yatagan

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Rotten said:
The question that needs to be asked of him:

"Charlie Kirk, you think that America doesn't need common shared heritage, familial bonds, or common religion to prosper as a State. America, you say, is an idea.

So my question to you is two part 'Who gets to communicate this idea to the masses of the next generation?' As a practical matter, the answer looks like the mainstream media, the teachers unions, and whatever foreign ideas foreigners keep bringing with them. 'Why should we trust our demonstrable repeat enemies to define who we are and what we stand for?"
Reminds me of what i said in the complaints of donald trump thread, that the "proposition nation" idea is an autismo at odds with reality, as you can't enforce whether anyone even buys into that idea(I don't for ex.). It's akin to the USSR's "new soviet man" concept.
 

911

Peacock
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RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Guys like Kirk or Tommy Robinson are on too tight a leach, they have to stick with the program religiously (figuratively, and literally in this case...). As a result they will occasionally show their hand and eventually lose the smarter part of their followers.

Unfortunately given their huge resources and media reach, they end up replacing most of this audience with a well-meaning but gullible public. They use wedge politics and emotional manipulations to drive their agendas, hiding its real nature.

Their funders, people like Adelson, Koch, Singer, Mercer or Moskowitz are fundamentally Open Border Kalergists, in favor of diluting European Christians as a key tool to cement their economic and cultural domination.
 

gework

Ostrich
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RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

RIslander said:
Just because he cucks for the gays doesn't make him gay.


Charles isn't a conservative. He is an aspirational, liberal capitalist. A conservative is primarily concerned with their family, then church, locality, region, nation, civilisation. I haven't heard him say anything about the family. If you are not talking about that, you are not a conservative. He mostly talks about capitalism, which is a component of liberalism.

He believes that if you can just connect to poor 3rd world immigrants and millennials, they will all get on board with his program of shrinking government, innovating and making money. But one of the problems is, if you allow people free range, they won't believe what you tell them is right. They will end up believing endless different things that are increasingly at odds. You'll never get a majority of people who will abide by the rules of liberals.

Also noticed that he makes large amounts of demonic, disgusted micro-expressions.

You can see it in this video:


We'll probably see this guy wearing jackboots one day, but right now he's on the Cato gravy train.

 

Athanasius

Kingfisher
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

I honestly don't know much about Charlie Kirk, but I've heard all I need to know. Kirk also throws out the red herring of EB-5 Visas (VISAs for wealthy investors), which are a few thousand, while ignoring the that vast majority-- hundreds of thousands-- are to (like the H1B) replace entry to mid-level tech workers with cheap white-collar labor.

Steve Sailer did some investigation. In short, 76% of top 50 donor Democrat money came from Jewish donors, 56% of top 50 Republican donor money was from Jews. That's a lot of influence. More here. Follow the money indeed.
 

Rotten

Robin
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

The point isn't that Charlie Kirk is a shill. Of course he a shill. The issue is that Kirk is running around the country touring with Trump Junior, subverting the movement among his youth audience.
 

Sword and Board

Woodpecker
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

Eh... Anyone else getting tired of shills spouting "only democracy in the middle east" and "don't throw gays off rooftops" deflective jargon whenever critique of Israel arises.

I mean who gives a flying fuck what political system your enemy pretending to be your ally uses. Your enemy is still your enemy and is bringing you harm.

And the gay thing, fuck, Imagine in decades past if the soviet union/North Korea/Vietnam were attacking America about how intolerant it is towards gays. No one would have given a fuck and laughed it off because that's exactly the reaction it deserves. Not rushed out to surrender and embrace communism because its tolerant of gays. Its a non fucking issue in the grand political scheme of things. A big fucking false idol the masses are convinced to worship.
 

NoMoreTO

Pelican
RE: Zionist conservative Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) challenged by man holding cross

This tour is great! More feet to the fire, These frogs are awesome.

Follow up on US Liberty, Charlie seems to think it was a rogue commander or something?

Trump talks up minorities but never white people. Why doesn't he ever mention whiteys unemployment numbers?

Identity Politics for Israel but not for USA or Euros, USA is just a masonic idea, no identity for you, no soup for you
 
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